Anti Trump rally in tarn, Saturday..

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  1. Mr C

    Mr C Well-Known Member

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    Double post.
     
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    Mr C Well-Known Member

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    One of many issues. I think the global trump protests are just the many voices of the world telling him what a total **** we all think he is and that his position of office is not recognised or respected, regardless of the so-called democratic processes.
     
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    Mr C Well-Known Member

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    The reason you can go about your day in relative peace and safety, have reasonable living/working conditions and hopefully enough food on the table, is a result of the common man revolting against his oppressor, by protest, direct/political action and reasoned debate.
     
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    Ok then let's try this your way, what was the next best score of the second best party
    Conservative won outright majority of 37 percent
    Labour second 30 percent
    Who won
    You can repeat that to yourself a few times it might help
    Hth
     
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    You seem not to understand the meaning of the word. It means more than 50%. 37% is a minority. At the last election there was no majority vote for ANY party.

    In such cases, sensible democracies have governments which reflect the way the electorate voted, ie coalition governments.
     
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    Majority of the votes cast you don't seem to understand that , there was no coalition this time cos the cons won a majority of the people who bothered to turn up to vote . Majority
    Cons won a majority
    Labour won foxtrot alpha
    Greens foxtrot alpha
    Lib bums foxtrot alpha
     
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    I'm more than happy he's president
     
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    You're in luck, you wont need to go to the rally then.
     
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    They got a majority in the house of commons and a minority in the popular vote.

    In the popular vote, they had a majority over Labour and they had a majority over the Lib Dems BUT they had no majority over the the all of the opposition parties combined; they had a minority. I think in the eyes of most right-thinking people this situation is not democratic.

    Only 37% of the votes cast were Tory, this means that 63% of the people did not vote Tory, almost 2/3 of the people who voted.
     
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    So what attracts you to Donald? I'm curious...
     
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    I think you mis spelt Liberal Democrats. In case you're unsure of the meaning of liberalism here's the definition.

    a. Favoring reform, open to new ideas, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; not bound by traditional thinking; broad-minded. See Synonyms at broad-minded.
    b. Of, relating to, or characteristic of liberalism.
    c. Liberal Of, designating, or characteristic of a political party founded on or associated with principles of social and political liberalism, especially in Great Britain, Canada, and the United States.
    hth
     
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    To be fair I'm not sure he can count or understands percentages.
     
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    A. Your having a laugh when has any liberal been tolerant of any ideas apart from their own,
    B. Being able to whinge and whine when everything goes against them
    C. So your party should be in fact
    The very unliberal whingers
     
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    So what you want then , if you lose the vote , is to then be able to cobble together all the other losers and become a coalition of losers
    After the vote , so you can win
    Amazin
     
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    I don't believe I said they were my party. And your reply, as always, is childish, arrogant and pathetic.
     
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    Thank you I was right on points A and B then obviously
     
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    He's right though, the liberal left are the least tolerant of any current political group, as demonstrated by their/your reaction to the recent Tory majority/Brexit vote/Trump victory (delete as applicable). As Mario K has stated elsewhere, the Jonathan Pie verdict was just about spot on, trouble is many liberals/leftists are too daft to grasp the point he was making. As for the march through tarn against a democratically elected new POTUS and his policies (which got him elected) - beyond ridiculous.
     
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    I think this bloke Trump as been hit over eeard wi barm stick.
     
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    I am simply pointing out that our political system is not terribly democratic. A government in the UK can more or less do what it likes with the support of barely a third of the vote behind them. If we had a proper system, then the Tories would not be able to govern unchecked in such circumstances and would have to work with other parties thus moderating their more extreme policies.

    It works very well in other countries and it would have stopped Maggie from ripping the heart out our community.

    I'm not sure if you're just having me on or are genuinely stupid. If it's the latter then I apologise and hope that you can get a lobotomy on the NHS (if the Tories have left any of it).

    By the way what you suggest can and does happen if there is no majority party in the commons.
     
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    You are just embarrassing yourself now...
     

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