Discussion in 'Bulletin Board' started by twillo, Jul 12, 2018.
Millwall need go dig deeper then!
Where did you hear that.
Are you sure that's how it works? I didn't think players got anything out of transfer other than a signing on fee (and obviously potenitally higher wages).
I always was led to believe, that a player receives a percentage of any fee once a deal is agreed.
Is that classed as the signing on fee, or is that a separate entity.? I knew a Pro who always used to
get himself put forward as the PFA representative at each club he was at. He would then stir the pot constantly
without ever requesting a move, so that the Club would look to move him on as quickly as they could.
He joked about his reputation as a "journeyman", but it was a conscious " strategy" that paid dividends. He ended up with a 6 bed detached drum with no mortgage and drove a top of the range Merc. His missus didn't have to work and his kids all had
a private education. Last I heard of him, he was a part time Rep for Wilkinson Sword and on Saturdays was a "greeter " in the
hospitality suite of his last club, where he managed to keep his nose clean before retiring from the game.
They don't get anything out of the transfer, but they are entitled to their full contract being paid. Obviously they can waive that right or some of that right, but if they put in a written transfer request, that right is cancelled, hence why few players resort to that, and usually only when the wages offered are likely to be significantly higher than what they are currently receiving.
So the net cost to the club is transfer fee received, less any contractual obligations unless waived.
I'm sure it varies from club to club and player to player, but the instances i've seen at close hand (and this is a good while ago now), signing on fees, loyalty fees and bonuses for just about anything you can imagine aren't uncommon.
Are you sure that isn't just if the club is releasing a player or essentially forcing him to move to a lower paid job and making up the difference in wages?
There's no logic behind him getting two wages at the same time
I didn't believe it myself until I heard it confirmed by club officials I know (not BFC by the way). Players do waive it, and that all comes down to negotiations and good will. But they are entitled.
I just want to hear that a player like Bradshaw 'has signed a contract extension to keep him at the club until...,' rather than 'we made a profit on his sale.' I would think that Daniel would be pressing hard to keep Tom after the first two games.
Can't reveal my source.
Sometimes in situations like this I think clubs should put a price tag on a player. So for example instead of saying not for sale where Milwall or any other incrementally trying new bids, distracting the player and management and dragging it on should just say offers above £4m considered only.
If clubs are serious then they match the valuation. Their officials and fans know the score. Player and his agent knows his value to to the club too. Anything less offered should simply be ignored.
Sounds like his agent is working overtime here , its a bit odd if it has come from Bradshaw himself as he tweeted on tues night on how pleased he was with getting another 45 mins under his belt & things going well , did not come over as a player desperate to leave . I mentioned his agent working hard , as I have just read about Hull showing an interest , sounds like things are getting ramped up
This is where FIFA, UEFA and domestic bodies are weak as far as agents are concerned .
Mostly because of people within these bodies disrupting or campaigning against any meaningful legislation .
Much the same as officials or employees in gov tax depts they influence the rules and any changes etc then get a job that entails knowledge of how to navigate through them within the guidelines they or ex colleagues have set .
It stinks but it’s the way it works and I don’t see it changing anytime soon or near/ medium future .
The FBI only acted and then only in part because their World Cup bid had failed The changes for most part of FIFA are imo cosmetic
It’s definitely how it works. A player can forfeit the wages owed or a buying club can pay them but legally the player is entitled to them.
Agents, along with play acting, are the scourge of the game. It is rarely, if ever, in an agents interest not to get their client to move. They get their cut of a transfer fee, and then if they get higher wages then a cut of that too.
FIFA should ban agents getting a cut of any transfer fee. Anything they earn should be paid from a players salary. Might make players ask a bit more about what really is in their best interest.
It's right what Cloughie said " only agent I knew was 007 and he screwed women not football Clubs."
Hull apparently showing an interest now - might bump the price up. I can't see Bradshaw wanting to stay in L1 if Hull come knocking.
The clubs including Barnsley FC could rid football of agents with one action make it be known that the clubs will not sign a player whose transfer is engineered by his agent and they will not pay agents fees or use an agent to unsettle another teams players. The clubs won't do this of course because they are involved in the whole dirty process of player transfers themselves. The only people who suffer are the fans and we all know what the football industry thinks ofuss.
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