EU Elections

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  1. shenk1

    shenk1 Well-Known Member

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    Didn't think it would....that's the problem :rolleyes:
     
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    Yes the problem is that everything he said is flawed into thinking that he’s being left wing and correct, when in fact it’s the opposite.

    I answered every point, and the problem is, you just don’t get it....
     
  3. shenk1

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    "Unlike the fund givers of the leave campaign.....where's the money coming from and what will the return be"

    No answer.



    When did we last vote for the WTO leader ?

    The WTO will not be the ones running our country.

    Neither do the EU but we help choose its make up'


    Even though there is a shortage of said skilled workers, nurses, doctors etc.

    Yes. Why should other countries struggle because we aren’t training enough people?

    Very benevolent of you but the shortage is now...how long does it take to train people even if they are willing to do the jobs.


    Even though if we stay in the EU it will never happen.

    Says who?

    The veto we have.


    Trade deals that aren't going to appear for years (if ever) as has been proved with the ones already signed.

    We can’t make trade deals until we’re out of the EU control, so how do you know?

    Tell that to Liam Fox who has spent the last 2 years trying to do them and currently has 10 signed. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47213842

    How's the House of Lords these days

    Not as much influence as the EU...?

    ALL our laws go through them.


    Yet you are supporting a right wing movement thus aiding the right wing takeover.

    I’m not supporting a right wing movement. You are blinkered into believing that remaining is a left wing option.

    UKIP, Brexit party, BNP, EDL, Stephen Lennon are all in the same pot.

    The same Greeks that dug their own hole and had to be bailed out one way or another...non of which were any good.

    Yes. Quite clearly you have double standards

    No double standards , just no good way of helping.


    Even though a lot of Leaves money seems to be coming from some shady individuals and companies....what do they stand to benefit through their influence ?

    You really have been hoodwinked by the publicity machine.

    Where does the money come from then and what do these organisations stand to gain?


    You will be holding a large tab if we leave....massive if it;s with no deal,

    In your opinion....

    And most financial experts.
     
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    I’ve just given you 10 points. You seem to have ignored.

    It wasn’t proved nonsense at all. But you won’t realise that at all. Look up proof.

    The benefit is my 10 reasons plus loads of others.

    I want to leave, the current deal is not good enough, hence no deal!

    I tell you what, give me 10 facts why you want to remain. Be careful that they are facts, and not forecasts though. I guess I’ll be waiting a long time.
     
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    You won’t be.

    https://www.strongerin.co.uk/get_the_facts#6xRY2ApyGhOKsMwP.97

    Get the facts.
     
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    Without a shadow of doubt, without the bravery, stubbornness and sheer brutality of the Russian people including Women and Kids, WW2 would have turned out different.
    Even with the Americans coming into the war Russia were well on the way to pushing the Germans back.
    That is not to belittle any of the British war effort from all quarters on the contrary.
     
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    Facts.. from a pro EU blog

    particularly like the bit about cheaper petrol prices.(and food and energy prices lol) have you ever been outside the eu?..do you honestly believe the eu are actually giving us the best prices for these three essentials//
     
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    World leaders including Barack Obama, Angela Merkel, Justin Trudeau and Narendra Modi say our world influence would be diminished if we left.
    Read more at https://www.strongerin.co.uk/get_the_facts#dh2XpsXk7oAhp4f0.99

    When I saw Justin trudeau's name mentioned I had to laugh . Not exactly going great guns in Canada , sacking his attorney general to cover illegal payments to gadaffis sons by SNC lavalin . Am I supposed to trust him ?
     
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    Freedom of movement and the benefits it brings to society and the economy....https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/1386/economics/free-movement-of-labour/

    Being able to have a EHIC...personally benefited from this last month when my missus was taken seriously ill while in Berlin and spent 2 weeks in hospital there....https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-44850972

    Benefits of free trade within the EU....https://www.nibusinessinfo.co.uk/content/benefits-trading-european-union

    Funding for projects in our area....and before you say "It's our money" it's money that is taken in tax and still will be whether in the EU or not and don't hold your breath for our government to fill the gaps....https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/new...re-in-yorkshire-eu-funding-has-gone-1-9343033

    Peace in Ireland....http://www.europarl.europa.eu/factsheets/en/sheet/102/northern-ireland-peace-programme

    EU law protecting workers rights.....https://greens.scot/blog/5-ways-being-a-member-of-the-eu-benefits-workers-today

    Human rights act and the European Court of Human Rights....https://www.amnesty.org.uk/eight-re...s-made-uk-better-place-british-bill-of-rights

    EU action on climate change...https://www.green-alliance.org.uk/resources/08.05.14 How the UK benefits from EU action.pdf

    Medical research cooperation (the missus has MS so personally affected by this)....file:///C:/Users/Gary/Pictures/Downloads/BMA-brexit-briefing-medical-research.pdf

    EU security policy cooperation....https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/policies/defence-security/
     
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    Still waiting for something tangible to back your opinion up with. I strongly suspect no amount of information matters.
     
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    all of the above can be done without the need for a european parliament

    peace was secured in ireland without the interference of the eu..
     
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    All facts and all benefits due to being in the EU. No proof they would be upheld if we left.

    Possibly leaving is threatening peace in Ireland as witnessed already with no workable solution to the border and trade in sight that satisfies both sides.
     
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    I still find it bizarre that folk who want us to leave, have voted for a company (they aren’t an actual party) to enter the parliament they don’t believe in, and want us to be no part of, so that these company reps can not show up but get all the coin and expenses regardless. Reps who put posters up saying the UK is at breaking point, with imagery that throws back to the Nazi demonisation of the Jews. Or slogans on buses telling the electorate that huge sums saved by leaving the EU would be pumped into the NHS. A rep has just been voted in who defends the rights of nonces, is anti-gay, anti-Muslim, refused to condemn the IRA murders of two young boys in Warrington - she’s now an MEP in the north west, ‘serving’ Warrington.

    Folk voted for this.

    I used to look back at the events leading up to the Second World War and sit baffled at how easy the far right took control of certain nations. Now I understand it a little bit better. Sadly.

    Up the Reds, JC and the many.
     
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    no proof they will be upheld and certainly no proof they wont be either
     
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    But we were asked for benefits backed up by facts....that's what I've given.
     
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    I agree. Although disappointed at Potts being sold, I did understand that it is part of the plan. As you say, releasing Potts along with moncur left us slightly light but it gave game time to the starman who will hopefully continue to flourish.
    Oh and perhaps people saw no point in voting in these elections due to the fact we’re leaving.
     
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    shenk1 Well-Known Member

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    Sorry if I take that article with a giant scoop of salt seeing as its author is a member of the Brexit party and it was written in the run up to the referendum.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politic...book-favoured-benefit-cuts-for-single-mothers
     
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    Well people who insult/abuse are not very nice ( or they're having a bad day)so on that at least we can agree
     

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