How can Tom Daley and his husband both be the dad?

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  1. bright red

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    I sometimes do think you are overtly pedantic. The meaning being that it doesn’t affect me or you or anyone else that isn’t involved with the immmediate family. Are you implying that having gay parents will adversely affect the child? That’s what I interpret your remarks to mean.
     
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    Just read your recent post and I apologise. You were just being pedantic or sarcastic.
     
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    That last sentence was to indicate what ridiculous things could happen when you go overboard, not what I think should be implemented.
     
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    They might go for..

    Dad & Fatha
     
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    Who gives a toss?
     
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    I did last night

    Edit: just to clarify I mean pancakes. Just realised how that sounded.
     
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    I know what he means though. People are scared of voicing their opinions on things like this, because they'll get crucified by the pc brigade.
     
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    This has provoked much thought on my part. I, like some on here, accept that two people of the same sex can be loving and caring parents. Of that I have no doubt. However, I can two main issues regardless of peoples perceived prejudices:
    1. On the matter of conception - did the biological father agree to this, if he did can he change his mind and wish to have care of the child himself? Or does he waive any rights?
    2. Who has care of the child in the case of the same sex parents getting divorced? - From a dad's perspective in a mixed sex marriage (I've worded that wrongly) it's jolly difficult for a father to be granted custody of a child rather than a mother (bitter personal experience). So how would custody be ascertained?
     
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    I'm not sure what you mean in regards to question 1 as we don't know who the biological father is. Do you mean if it is a separate, 3rd guy? Or do you mean it it is Tom, or his husband? If it is the first option then he can block it right up to the point of them adopting the child, and then he has given up all rights. If it is either Tom or his partner than I imagine the other will adopt the child (unless you can put two dads on the birth certificate, I'm not sure) and the adopter will become an official parent with the same rights as the biological one.

    In terms of question 2, I imagine it will be up to the judge to decide which parent is most suitable or they will get joint custody (presuming that the other dad (or both if a separate father was involved) adopted the child).
     
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    Brad Potts
     
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    Purely speculation. You are right in what you are saying, in a sense, that the parent can change their mind & that a legally enforceable contract cannot be drawn up. The idea property & gifts cannot be made to individuals involved is wrong though. Point is, do the ends justify the means. If the kid is OK & no one is forced to do anything, I see no great problem. The OP does raise some interesting points. If other people think its wrong, based on religious or cultural viewpoints I'm unlikely to change their mind, so won't bother trying.
     
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    Maybe tom or his husband are hermaphrodite with all the correct tackle tucked away? :eek:o_O
     

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