Huge problems I see with the new 48 team World Cup format.

Discussion in 'Bulletin Board' started by Merde Tete, Jun 14, 2018.

  1. Merde Tete

    Merde Tete Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2005
    Messages:
    8,903
    Likes Received:
    1,542
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    probably somewhere in the Russian Federation......
    Style:
    Barnsley
    A 48 team World Cup, with a group stage where two qualify from three out of every group. What an absolute farce this is going to be. Potential problems:

    The groups could be hugely unbalanced, meaning it will be almost impossible for the big sides to get knocked out. Group A - England, Argentina, Fiji. Hmmm, I wonder who'll go through from that.

    Teams could potentially go through with one point! One team wins both games, the other two draw.

    A lot of potential for teams all having identical records, leading to teams could get knocked out by the drawing of lots - hugely unfair.

    Odd number of teams in groups means the teams playing the final match have a huge advantage in already knowing what they need to do. I can envisage a large number of draws being played out to ensure qualification.

    The only solution I see to retain any excitement in the group stages would be to do away with seeding completely. A group with Brazil, Germany and Spain. Two go through, one goes out. Any slip-up could be fatal. Now that would be exciting, although it doesn't negate the other issues mentioned. But they'd never go for it anyway, there would be uproar from the big sides.

    Overall, it seems very poorly thought through. Or maybe FIFA just doesn't care.
     
    Kettlewell likes this.
  2. churtonred

    churtonred Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2011
    Messages:
    3,029
    Likes Received:
    1,998
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Dingle. No, really!
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Much as I enjoyed your post...you could just have written the last sentence.
     
  3. Plankton Pete

    Plankton Pete Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2005
    Messages:
    6,776
    Likes Received:
    399
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Location:
    In hiding from the lynch mob
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Wrt one of your other points, I'm pretty sure that Fifa ranking is used as a discriminator rather that lots.
     
  4. Jimmy cricket

    Jimmy cricket Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2012
    Messages:
    17,885
    Likes Received:
    3,480
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Ballet Dancer
    Location:
    Hiding under the bed
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    It’ll be boring as **** that’s my issue.
     
    wakeyred likes this.
  5. Til

    Tilertoes Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2015
    Messages:
    1,673
    Likes Received:
    558
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Very much agree with this. Anyone on here that’s played for either a good team or a toss one will know that nobody wins from a 10 0 game. Diabolical decision and if people think there are no easy internationals then they’re wrong if you approach them properly.
     
  6. Acido Tyke

    Acido Tyke Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2017
    Messages:
    1,750
    Likes Received:
    396
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Normanton, West Yorkshire
    Style:
    Barnsley
    This happened in the ill advised format in Espana '82, when the 2nd Round & Qtr Finals were done away with for further group stages of 3 teams each.
    The hosts Spain were already out when they played us and we needed to win by 2 which we failed to do. Poland knew that their 0-0 draw would be good enough against the Soviets, and France knew that a draw against N.Ireland would be enough (although they certainly didn't play for a draw).
    Having odd teams in group stages is indeed a ridiculous idea but Im rapidly losing interest in the World cup when you see whats coming up next, in Qatar of all places.
     
  7. ans

    anstonred Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2018
    Messages:
    46
    Likes Received:
    35
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    There are more than enough teams already in the World Cup. In my opinion, 48 teams is simply insane!
     
    Jimmy cricket likes this.
  8. Merde Tete

    Merde Tete Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2005
    Messages:
    8,903
    Likes Received:
    1,542
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    probably somewhere in the Russian Federation......
    Style:
    Barnsley
    That's nearly as bad. Spain only need to equal Australia's results, as they'll go through anyway due to being ranked higher. Oh dear.
     
  9. Merde Tete

    Merde Tete Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2005
    Messages:
    8,903
    Likes Received:
    1,542
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    probably somewhere in the Russian Federation......
    Style:
    Barnsley
    As I said, get rid of seeding. Three powerhouse teams in one group, only two can progress. That would be very interesting, but they'd never go for it.
     
  10. occ

    occook Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2007
    Messages:
    4,414
    Likes Received:
    1,782
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    utterly stupid. But then this is FIFA. As stupid as they are corrupt.
     
  11. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2008
    Messages:
    34,433
    Likes Received:
    1,891
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Project Manager
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    No better example of this than the West Germany v Austria game https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disgrace_of_Gijón
     
  12. Acido Tyke

    Acido Tyke Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2017
    Messages:
    1,750
    Likes Received:
    396
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Normanton, West Yorkshire
    Style:
    Barnsley
    I agreed with their idea of extending it to 24 teams in '82, but the numbers weren't right for creating a Last-16 & a Qtr final round.
    They did alter it to that format in '86 but it meant teams going through who only finished 3rd and thats not right.

    Speaking of ridiculous changes to tournaments, have you all noticed how they are pratting about with the next Euros for 2020. and I don't understand this new Nations cup thing either which is meant to effectively end future Intl friendlies.
     
  13. Skryptic

    Skryptic Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2015
    Messages:
    1,139
    Likes Received:
    285
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    If it makes money they will do it. Gotta try to ensure India and China qualiify to make money from the big markets. That's what they mean when they say they want to grow the game. That's why it's in Russia and we're going to Qatar. It's disgusting.
     
    churtonred likes this.
  14. Wellsie

    Wellsie Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2006
    Messages:
    7,124
    Likes Received:
    207
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    At least it’s not as bad as the 2019 cricket World Cup, the whole thing is a farce to ensure India are on tv enough.
     

Share This Page