Discussion in 'Bulletin Board' started by e-red, Apr 4, 2020.
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and thatchers parents ran a shop
Well I joined the party to vote for him, put Nandy second and Khan/Burgon for deputy. Labour need to move to the centre and hold it. The choice at the last election was a choice of extremes which is not where most of the electorate stand.
I voted for him and Angela - so you can blame me for any failings from now on!!! People might not like it, I know being the rebel on the outside look cool, but it does naff all for ordinary folk. The candidate the Tories most feared was Starmer, tells you all you need to know.
Maybe I'm just very cynical but what remarkable timing for Carrie to announce that she thinks she's had Covid-19 for the past 7 days, decided not to have a test despite being pregnant, and now feels fine.
Not sure why people have got Keir Starter pegged as a Blairite. He certainly wasn't afraid to espouse democratic socialism in his campaign:
marlon ,i'm not having a go at you pal,i'm just pointing out that Corbyn jumped ship and those who turned their backs on him did so because they thought he'd turned his back on them
had corbyn had the balls to stand by forty years of being anti EU then those seats in the north would still be red,those voters saw corbyn as weak and spineless..BTW,i bet most of those voters dont even bother reading any papers at all.
I disagree that leave and remain are gone and i predict the tories will walk the next election after labor elected Starmer,like i say only time will tell
As a footnote,i voted labour at the last election ,just so as i dunt get accused of being a tory sympathiser
I know your not having a go dek and even if you are your entitled and I know you always have respect when your posting .
I wasn’t having a go either just saying what I thought . I know a lot don’t read papers but a lot did and it was the social media that were the
He went with his constituents regards Brexit although he didn’t agree with the remainers personally when it cane to publicly taking a side he went with his constituents . Just like Lisa Nandy did at last election most MPs sided with their constituents and Keir Starmer did but his constituents also happened to be remainers so it was a no brainier for him anyway.
Brexits done now And the party needs uniting firstly because of this fekin Virus thing then to get rid of numpty bollocks and his Commie mate .
And reinvigorates mine.
I loved centrist New Labour politics. If you had had the misfortune to rely on the NHS through those years you’d know what I mean.
Long-Bailey would have been the death of the party. Nandy is one for the future, Keir Starmer is the person for now!
Sir Keir is on the Andrew Marr show on BBC 1 Sunday 5th at 9am.
Be interesting to hear his views and plans for the future of the Labour
It might have been great then , it isn't now . Thanks a bunch new labour .
Think you’ve misunderstood pal. We’ve had the misfortune to see the NHS up close from 1991 right through to today. The improvement in NHS services during the Blair/Brown years was extremely significant. Then the Tories took over in 2010 and, again, the change has been significant. No amount of ideology can change people’s lived experience. Hopefully, the Labour Party can now once more start to properly represent the people it was created for.
Correct , but where did they get the money from ? Instead of raising taxes they used private markets hence the net 70% extra cash to pay back for those improvements . They say tony Blair was Margaret Thatcher's greatest achievement and I tend to agree with that sentiment .
Must have been some backhanders given out with those PFI schemes . Absolutely crazy idea and costing us billions still
You only become a hundred millionaire like tony when you know who's bread to butter . Remember that ; " new labour are business friendly " ? That's around the time the sun / daily mail jumped on the bandwagon and started supporting him for PM around 1996 .
Whatever. I just want to be able to vote for a Labour Party that has the chance to govern and to look after the poorest in society. Something that the Corbyn years ensured could never happen.
Just swap the name from Tony to Boris and the year from 1996 to 2019 and it's groundhog day.
TIme will tell as to whether he will be a good leader. I personally wanted to see some fresh faces put their case forward for the leadership instead of the same faces we constantly see on various TV shows etc. It didn't happen so not sure the party have moved forward with this appointment.
Think as a world leader, charisma is important and I think Starmer just comes across a bit damp dish cloth and doesn't fill me full of optimism when he speaks. Can he prove otherwise. When PMQ's get back to normal post this fecking virus, let's see what he has in his locker. A bit of controlled anger wouldn't be a bad start.
Least he won't get involved in this millionaires row jobe at the Tory front bench, he is also a multi millionaire so that doesn't wash.
Most of all what I want to see is the leader of the Labour party actually promoting their own policies rather than continuing what really developed under Milliband which is just the policy of criticising the Tories. My advice to Starmer would be chalk **** on what other parties policies are, push your own agenda with enthusiasm and belief. By all means hold the government to account, but rather than getting bogged down focused on Tory policies, show the public what could be the alternative and convince the nation of a new direction.
I'll give him time and I'll be surprised if he changes my initial view of him. He should be aware the wolves and vultures are already circulating waiting for his first mistake
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