No Deal Brexit

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  1. sadbrewer

    sadbrewer Well-Known Member

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    You can go back to archives and pick up things that may look like this was widely discussed, but the archive does not show the big picture....the Anti Common Market League, as you can see by looking at the leaflet was a fringe organisation with little media access.
    The only serious people who raised the Sovereignty question were Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Michael Foot, and Enoch Powell. Their position was rubbished by 90% of their own Parliamentary party colleagues, and the vast bulk of the media. I don't think there was a single national daily that supported leave other than the Morning Star. Don't forget of course that in those days that newspapers were the main driver...no internet or catch up tv...if you didn't see the half hour debate between Heath and Benn at 10.30 on a Tuesday night that was it...it never saw the light of day again.
    The main two parties dominated the media to an extent they can't even come close to managing today...all their publications were pro remain and denied the possibilities that fringe groups were suggesting....just to add some perspective at the previous years General Election Labour and the Tories held 96% of the seats.
     
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    You asked it as a question and your implication was that the ROI's law on Gay Rights and Abortion are currently years behind the UK's. Since the referendum on abortion it is now a fact that the UK's laws on Gay Rights and Abortion are actually years behind the ROI's - and that is down to religion in Northern Ireland where abortion and gay marriage are currently both illegal and this is down to religious zealots controlling the agenda in your country.

    Get into bed with racist homophobic bigots (the DUP) and own it. Do not try to pin stuff on another country, which after many, many tough years has finally begun to rid itself of control by the Catholic Church.

    Proud to live (and after 20 years be a citizen of) a country that is moving forward, small steps maybe, but definitely moving forward.
     
  3. Don

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    Again I think you’re reading stuff into my post that wasn’t there.

    I have no axe to grind re Ireland’s politics and have more in common with a banana than I do with the DUP so you’re way off the mark with your assumptions.
     
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    Fair enough - probably over sensitive to perceived criticism as there is currently a push to blame ROI for UK created problems (not you specifically, but definitely the view generally over here).

    As I have loved (and continue to love) living here and raising my family here I will defend the place, despite its many imperfections..
     
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  5. Don

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    I think I’d rather be there than here atm :)

    The only advantage I can think I have is that I’m a bit closer to Oakwell.
     
  6. sadbrewer

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    As you're in Ireland, I've attached a piece from the Irish Independent. I'm not saying it is right or wrong, but there is an alternative view....you need to sign up with an email address and username but it's FOC.

    https://www.independent.ie/opinion/...p-has-now-come-back-to-haunt-us-38477446.html
     
  7. Langer Dan

    Langer Dan Active Member

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    That is a definite advantage as would love to be going every other week as we used to. Usually manage two games a season atm.
     
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    Any privileges of travelling abroad by British citizens extends to EU citizens why do you think you’ve got the EU on your passport?
     
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    Dunno. The further west you go in Ireland the stranger it becomes!
     
  10. Don

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    Is Johnson’s masterplan now to resign after parliament has broken up?
    In which case we’d have a ‘law’ which forces the PM to go to Brussels for an extension but no PM to send?
     
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    Deputy prime minister?
    I’m sure there must be someone who can negotiate even if it’s left to the MEPs .
    Probably on the grounds of us having no working govt and therefore Brexit suspended till such time after a GE.
    For me it’s inconceivable that a major policy can be triggered without representation from some sort of Government .
    I’m sure the house can vote for a representative
    To act as emergency PM.
    Maybe that’s what the purge was for to eliminate any member of a party of govt .?
     
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    because we are part of the eu, not because the eu has sorted my travel arrangements out when i go to india marlon, i think you are giving too much credit to brussels pal.
     
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    Johnson would be PM until the new one was appointed. Same as May way until Johnson was appointed.
     
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    In a nutshell
     
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    Project Fear. I demand my unicorn .
     
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    But wasn’t Phil Collins a Brexiteer? Certainly a Tory, if he’s playing project fear we must be fooked.
     
  17. Don

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    I believed (May be wrong) that May had to agree to remain PM in the interim, not that it was automatic.
     
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    Apparently, Leadsom on BBC Breakfast this morning dismissed the publication of Yellowhammer as it would concern people



    She also said it was a "worst case" scenario.

    Unfortunately, Michael Gove last week under oath admitted it was a "base case" scenario

     
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    Project Fear.

    Will of the people.

    Suppression of sovereignty, law and information.

    This is England 2019.
     
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    A little like 1984 or V for Vendetta but sadly real life.
     
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