Unpopular opinion

Discussion in 'Bulletin Board' started by SuperTyke, May 25, 2018.

  1. Wayne

    Wayne Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2005
    Messages:
    6,412
    Likes Received:
    125
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Location:
    Barnsley, South Yorkshire, United Kingdom
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    How is it a unpopular opinion?

    If people are claiming JSA but have no intention of working they shouldn't be on it
     
  2. Red

    Red CB Banned Idiot

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2017
    Messages:
    2,877
    Likes Received:
    1,750
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    retired
    Location:
    hoyland common
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    I tell you what, you haven't a clue , but for those of us who have paid all our lives god forbid us receiving anything, ideally it would be better if we were put down & any money we had left give it to the poor immigrants who contribute so much
     
  3. RedKestrel

    RedKestrel Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2017
    Messages:
    1,622
    Likes Received:
    364
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    TAL
    Location:
    Danelagen
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    projecting ageean.
     
  4. Skryptic

    Skryptic Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2015
    Messages:
    1,507
    Likes Received:
    620
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Exactly. I knew you'd see sense.
     
  5. DEE

    DEETEE Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2011
    Messages:
    8,786
    Likes Received:
    1,047
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    So wheres the line between what you contribute and take back?
     
  6. Sup

    SuperTyke Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2005
    Messages:
    35,663
    Likes Received:
    4,384
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    The problem with being angry is often the xenophobia shows
     
  7. Skryptic

    Skryptic Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2015
    Messages:
    1,507
    Likes Received:
    620
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    As the stats show, most people will contribute less than they take. Now we can make up some of that shortfall through taxing businesses etc, but if somebody works from 18-68, retires, then lives to 82, it's going to become increasingly expensive to fund both that pension as well as their healthcare costs etc. I've already accepted my state pension is either not going to exist, or is going to be given to me at around 75. If you're 35 or under you need to start making serious provisions for your retirement, around 8% of your salary a month. if you're older than 35 you're probably already buggered. We can probably also expect NI contributions to increase, and as much as people aren't going to like it, you need more people working to offset the costs. Basically the older generation are going to continue to squeeze us, but it's okay "I paid in my entire life".
     
  8. DEE

    DEETEE Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2011
    Messages:
    8,786
    Likes Received:
    1,047
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    And whe you get older.. youll be come one of those.

    Unless you take a one way trip to Dignitas.

    As for the migrant arguement theres stats that prove and disprove the same arguement.


     
  9. Marlon

    Marlon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2011
    Messages:
    17,104
    Likes Received:
    4,542
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    HERE.
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    That’s rubbish
    I know a lad at work who was on 45k a week who lost his job through no fault of his own and after six months lay off trying to find a job took a minimum wage job till he found something more towards his normal salary . He is 61 by the way and because he took the lower wage is finding it difficult to persuade other employers of his worth just by cv he can’t evem get past a cv to an interview . And has been looked past for someone unemployed because he took a minimum wage job as a fill gap
     
    barnsley66 likes this.
  10. Sup

    SuperTyke Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2005
    Messages:
    35,663
    Likes Received:
    4,384
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    So he should have been paid JOB SEEKERS allowance without seeking a job? Sorry thats fraud. It isn't called 'we will pay you to sit on your arse till you find the perfect job for hat you think is good enough for you alloance'
     
  11. blivy

    blivy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2011
    Messages:
    5,065
    Likes Received:
    488
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Location:
    Manchester
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    I’ll pay towards state pensions the majoitty
    Agree with this. The pension system is an absolute mess. The age at which you can start claiming a state pension should have been linked to life expectancy but it was stuck at 65 for years.
    Now the younger working generation will be paying for a state pension most of their working life without ever receiving one.
     
    barnsley66 likes this.
  12. leebrilleaux

    leebrilleaux Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2017
    Messages:
    461
    Likes Received:
    295
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Student, yes a Student even at my age!
    Location:
    Concrete Canyon
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Has anyone said that JSA was formerly called unemployment benefit?
     
  13. 36 Chambers

    36 Chambers Active Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2017
    Messages:
    324
    Likes Received:
    104
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Gender:
    Male
    Style:
    Barnsley
    I don't agree with that at all, you're always better off applying for a job when you have a job rather than when you're unemployed.
     
  14. Sup

    SuperTyke Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2005
    Messages:
    35,663
    Likes Received:
    4,384
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    I'm also intrigued as to how Marlon knows why employers are not employing his mate if he's never even got to the interview stage.

    His age will (sadly) have a hell of a lot more to do with it than the fact he has a job now
     
  15. How

    HowMuch! Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2017
    Messages:
    1,295
    Likes Received:
    439
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    I am sure that millionaire JCORBYN and TMAY et al plus reducing the
    Good lad , keep paying into the system .
     
  16. Father Benny Cake

    Father Benny Cake Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2005
    Messages:
    1,926
    Likes Received:
    358
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Location:
    Craggy Island Parochial House
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Just a quick question, who paid for your education? Your medical needs as a youngster? Your grandparents pensions? Your generation aren't the first to have to pay tax and national insurance you know.
     
    scarf, tyketastic and BFC Dave like this.
  17. Marlon

    Marlon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2011
    Messages:
    17,104
    Likes Received:
    4,542
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    HERE.
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Didnt say that did I ? Nowt like making your own arguments up keeps you busy I expect
     
  18. shenk1

    shenk1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2012
    Messages:
    5,373
    Likes Received:
    1,744
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Urine Extraction Technician
    Location:
    Elsecar By The Sea
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Nowt like changing the name of something to pressurise / victimise people into taking unsuitable jobs.

    Hence the rise of zero hours contracts.
     
  19. Wayne

    Wayne Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2005
    Messages:
    6,412
    Likes Received:
    125
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Location:
    Barnsley, South Yorkshire, United Kingdom
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Sorry but I disagree, if people have no intention of working they shouldn't be on JSA.Other benefits like disability or pension yes but JSA Nope
     
  20. Marlon

    Marlon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2011
    Messages:
    17,104
    Likes Received:
    4,542
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    HERE.
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Sorry but I fail to see where ibe said that he didn’t want to work . Don’t do a ST and start guessing
     

Share This Page