It absolutely astonishes me that it's 2022

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  1. Redstone

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    Plenty? As a percentage I believe its lower than in the general population. However it does go to show that even intelligent people will forgo their rationalism when it comes to religion.
     
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    Today my heart goes out to all those suffering due to being unable to enter a large shop, closed in the name of the Christian religion.

    And to those too dead to enter a shop in Ukraine that’s been destroyed in the name of the secular religion of fascism.
     
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    I would have agreed until we got up this morning and found the Easter Bunny has been! Looking forward to troughing my Wispa egg later :D
     
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    Fair dos. I hope when you’re eating it, you think long and hard about a white bloke with blonde hair and blue eyes, born in Palestine, to a virgin, who died then came back to life.

    Happy Easter :)
     
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    You think the heads of Russian state are secular?

    https://time.com/6167332/putin-russian-orthodox-church-war-ukraine/
     
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    I’ll try my best but I can’t promise I’m afraid….
     
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    Surely religion is about belief. Everybody believes in something.

    Some worship and believe in a criminal and liar like Johnson. Some worship and believe in a butcher like Putin.

    No different. Except Putin and Johnson have been proved to exist.
     
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    If someone wants to aspire to live a better life by following a book written 2000 years ago with the sole purpose of making people live better lives, then who am I to criticise. Some people may see something in their faith that I do not. It doesn’t mean they’re wrong or mentally unstable as someone on here put.
     
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    Poor attempt to “Top Trump” the legendary “Is there a God?” thread. ;)
     
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    The bit I don’t get is why just big shops, what about all the others, are restaurants, pubs, petrol stations etc not staffed by religious people. Surely it should be all?
     
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    but that is the key difference.

    saying I support the philosophy of a person, is completely different to saying I believe that person exists. I believe Hitler existed. I believe Stalin existed. I believe Genghis Khan existed.

    I completely support a person's right to religious freedom. even though the consequences of that are often horrific. I just don't believe there is any evidence that the thing they are worshipping exists. and worshipping something that doesn't exist, just seems bat$hit mental to me.

    the thing that becomes a real problem to me though, is when atrocities are carried out in the name of the thing they are worshipping that doesn't exist. and that has happened on a global scale, since religions became an idea. and by atrocities, I range from genocide, to preventing aids treatment and birth control. it's a very long list.
     
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    Religion makes a lot of sense evolutionary speaking - at one time Homo sapiens shared the planet with Neanderthals, wherever they interfaced eventually the humans took over and Neanderthals became extinct. Now one of the big questions is why was that? What advantage did we have? The answer appears to be “speech”. If you can’t speak and communicate complicated ideas then it’s difficult to organise large groups - you are restricted to the people you can know very well individually and that’s around 50-100. The clue can be seen to today with, for example, chimpanzee troop size - they are between 25-80 individuals- because that’s all you can hold together without speech. Once you have the ability to speak, and also write ideas down which can be added to by future generations then evolutionary speaking your onto a winner. With it comes the power of stories and shared cultures which suddenly go beyond the 80 or so people you know intimately to include 100s, 1000s and eventually millions of people. Hence religion has a critical role in the origins of organised societies - the ability to galvanise huge groups under a common cause.
    this “idea” that religion causes conflict and somehow we’d live in a brotherhood of man without it is frankly b0ll0x because humans will always find a story to tell themselves about why that group over there need to get gone. Humans kill each other in the name of god, gods, no god, country, pride, greed, revenge. Thus it ever was and ever will be.
     
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    A slight tangent but my firm moved to flexible Bank Holidays this year. Seemed like a good idea with each individual able to decide whether they took the Bank Holiday off or chose to work and have flexibility around their days off.

    This was based around our multi-cultural society and giving everyone flexibility.
     
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    agree a thousand % on all that. there should have been a point though, when that collective intelligence evolved to a point where everyone got round a table and went 'yeah, but you do know we just made that bit up don't you? I didn't actually happen'. or maybe one of the village elders said 'that sounds a bit weird, I've never seen anything like that. can you show me'?

    or maybe what happened, was the snidey c*nts in the room went 'did you notice just then how when we said that, all the thickos in the room believed us, then got a bit scared, then did what we told them? I think we might be onto summat here. shall we make summat else up, see if it works again'?
     
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    Ive got a rare sunday off

    Thankyou Jesus
     
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    But would you all be allowed to have Christmas off?
     
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    What are the rules by the way? We called into the designer outlet in York having been to have a picnic at Nayburn Lock and was suprised to find it fully open
     
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    The sole purpose of the bible (assuming that's what you were referencing) is not to make lives better.

    Impregnated by a man who raped you and refusing to Marry him? Stone her to death.
     
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    I think it used to be based on the actual size of the shop.
     
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    It's 2022 and it absolutely astonishes me that people can't keep their traps shut and allow others to believe whatever they want to believe.
     

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